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Slumber ([personal profile] slumber) wrote2004-05-15 08:45 pm

Troy. And Dad.

Daqd's staying in the hospital until Monday. Which isn't much to worry about, as they just want to make sure his ulcer's gone before it relapses, which is going to be more horrible than if he just stayed. He won't be able to see me off, though, because my flight for Thailand leaves Monday morning. (Thailand in two days!!! Oooohhh the shopping! :D)

Watched Troy. Rice, didn't the subtext keep you happy?

Anyway, here are a few of my observations:

- The slash is everywhere!!! Everywhere, I tell you! Each pair of men had A Moment. (this is possibly a defense mechanism against the horridness of the film. LOL.)

- I see why Orlando Bloom was cast as Paris. Orlando had to play the MOST annoying character in the entire movie, as the producers needed someone with a face that redeems its selfishness and weakness and utterly degrading girliness.

- I love Hector

- Why aren't wars this glorious anymore? I'd love to see US generals one-on-one with Iraqis. Hell, I'd love to see a showdown between Bush and Saddam. That way, no one important dies.

- Wow. The fireball thing that the Trojans did... What a strategy!

- Wait. Patroclus is Achilles' COUSIN? (Fine. I can deal with incest. Hmph.)

- Achilles obviously loves Patroclus more than that priestess he took in. I'm good. :D

- Oh great. Orlando decides his Paris act isn't working for the moviegoers, so he decides to remind them who he is and... brings out the bow and arrow. *thud* I know we're supposed to have our signature items, but dude!

- Odysseus has my love. He won the war AND lives to tell about it. The Trojan horse wasn't fair, yeah, but hey! It's war, right? Besides, anybody stupid enough to accept a large wooden horse deserves to be defeated.

- The priestess Achilles took in? I love her. Killing Agamemnon (That was Agamemnon, right?) with a dagger... Ooohh...

- Lemme get this straight. Paris takes Helen away from Menelaus, starts a war he doesn't fight, gets a couple of great warriors killed, and then gets all the ladies to himself in the end? Now doesn't that just bite?

[identity profile] jaig.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. At least you saw it already. :P

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
If only for Brad Pitt's well-sculpted thigh, which is the only thing good in the movie, according to my friend's friend. Of course, it isn't, not really.

Achilles/Patroclus, watch out, is a slightly different version of Brian/Justin. :D

[identity profile] jaig.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's all about the thighs!

This is the MOVIE OF THIGHS and LEATHER SKIRTS.

Which will do in a pinch for horrid plottage.

[identity profile] laliagariv.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen Troy yet, but from what I've heard I'm going to have some rants... having read the Iliad and all...

Wait, Achilles took a priestess? Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think Briseis was a priestess - I thought she was the daughter of a minor king... or some royal persona from a place near Troy.

I don't think Achilles actually took Cassandra (the priestess), and she and Agamemnon were killed by Aigiothos (sp), Agamemnon's cousin and Klytemnestra's lover on their return to Greece.

I thought Orlando as Paris was a brilliant move. He is Paris, who incidentally did fight in the war, and was an archer.

But anyway.

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
In the movie, Briseis is a priestess. (Troy is quite loosely based on The Iliad. They took away the gods, which is a pity, because I'd have loved to see the politics and that would have meant MORE men.)

No Cassandra in the movie. (Peter O'Toole might be gay. All men, few women. *waggles eyebrows*

Paris was portrayed more as a lover, not a fighter. *rolls eyes* He was a wimp in the movie, something I don't remember from the book at all. Tsk tsk. :D

[identity profile] laliagariv.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
How typical. No wonder we're all disillusioned.

So Briseis is the movie!Eowyn of Troy.

Damn, I wanted to see the gods. How the heck do they explain the whole war then?

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
How the heck do they explain the whole war then?

Helen runs off with Paris, and that starts it. What sustains it is Agamemnon's greed for power. They pulled it off, but well, I already knew the story anyway. And I still missed the gods' actualy involvement. Bah.

[identity profile] arimunami.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Am seeing it tonight. And I am prepared to think it is awful.

But I am going for the men with tans wearing little skirt things. And the subtext. Heh!

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Bronzed men showing off thighs. Good visuals. :D

[identity profile] arimunami.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you seen it yet? Thoughts on my LJ if you have...

[identity profile] arimunami.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Just read everything again, and am obviously dumb. Cos you've obviously seen it, and I'm just stoopid. ::hangs head in shame::

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. :) I'll check it later, when I've come back from church. :)

[identity profile] idroppedarice.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, the subtext did keep me happy. :D I actually saw Odysseus and Patroclus subtext from the moment Odysseus is introduced to him and touches him on the shoulder, did you see the way that Patroclus looks down at his hand and they share a slight look?

I mean, all the boys shared moments, but that was just so: Ancient Greek older man/younger boy lovers!!11!!2@! LeikTotallyOMG. *cough*

- I love Hector

Oh, me too. Of all the people in that movie I didn't expect to end up being attracted to the one that Eric Bana plays, but there I was, finding him the most appealing out of everyone. I'm in love with just too many historical figured. *headdesk*

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Odysseus/Patroclus! :D I tot I taw a tlathy moment! I did! I did! I did tee a tlathy moment! :D

Same here with Eric Bana. He was just so perfect out of them all. :)

[identity profile] postingwhore.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
That movie should die.

[identity profile] postingwhore.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Patroclus is Achilles's cousin. Patroclus's father is half-brothers with Achilles's grandfather.

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... I never remember things anymore. *headdesk* Perhaps all the time I've been thinking that they were pretty slashy, and I wasn't much into incest then, so natural defense mechanisms took over and erased a few details. :P Thanks for telling me, though.