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Can I help it if I'm just so utterly curious that I wonder what [livejournal.com profile] delawarean's two updates last June 19 were all about? This is hardly any of my business, and of course what stays under friends-lock should remain friends-locked, but what I wouldn't give for a third-party omniscient perspective at this moment, if only so I know how everything's unfolding.

Do you honestly believe this beats Limeywank, though? I mean, hmm, the expose was quite impressively executed, no small thanks in part to [livejournal.com profile] charlottelenox's flair for exposition, but is the actual wank content superior to faking death for the emo kids? Or any other wank, for that matter?

I know all the meta right now is about what revelations like Sockpuppetgate (or is it Scribewank?) mean for all of us, and I could go on about what I think in all those issues, but I am primarily an observer of the second degree, and that's why I choose to meta the meta.

[Poll #752243]

If it isn't there, then it's probably because it never reached a fandom country girl like me, which means it's likely not big enough. That, or I'd forgotten it. No ticky boxes for the kiddies because I don't like them. :|

There goes two nights' distraction. Hm. I suppose I could always just play with ice cubes or something.

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] gmth asks what we've gained and lost in fandom and allow me to deviate a bit from the friends answer (although I HAVE gained plenty of dearly loved ones), because in light of all the wanking and drama, I realised that were it not for fandom, I'd never really, fully know what it's like to be in what Hollywood purports as a typical high school. My high school was so much tamer than this jungle. ♥♥♥

Date: 2006-06-20 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenelda.livejournal.com
sockpuppetgate? what is this wank? i have missed something, as usual.

Date: 2006-06-20 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
Can't be sure Sockpuppetgate's the official term for it, perhaps it's scribewank or something. :| But anyway:

http://charlottelennox.livejournal.com is ten chapters of researched, detailed wank. :| Meta-discussion's sprouted everywhere. (Go to [livejournal.com profile] mofoslotmachine for links to a few highlights.)

Date: 2006-06-20 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenelda.livejournal.com
ICON LOVE. i just saw that movie sunday and LOVED HAMMY! :D

Date: 2006-06-20 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
*g* SO adorable, isn't he? :P The whole slow motion scene with him was just TOPS. :D

Date: 2006-06-20 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boho.livejournal.com
I'd just say 'Cassandra Claire' tbh, after all her name pretty much is an aka for 'wank'.

And hmm yeah, I think it beats Limeywank, after all LJ people are faking their deaths aaaaaaaall the time ([livejournal.com profile] fake_lj_deaths, I think that's the right username). Some people I know have been affected by this, but it's all so blah if I'm honest and totes tl;dr apart from the occassional 'OMFG I'D FORGOT ABOUT THAT!' it's brought up. I'm so glad I'm mostly outta fandom these days.

((god, learn to close your tags or what, hetty. *headdesk*))

Date: 2006-06-20 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saphreanth.livejournal.com
This is all very interesting. Except I wish I could understand what was going on without having to read through that fucking huge post. :( Er, short explanation from you, possibly? ;;)

Date: 2006-06-20 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] descants.livejournal.com
I have a short explanation! :D

[livejournal.com profile] msscribe wanted to be terribly fandom popular, so she made sockpuppet journals that badmouthed her and many other BNFs, then went and heroically defended herself, making people like her. But she lied about some really big, important things to garner sympathy; and of course the fact that all her biggest supporters/critics turned out to be her is kind of pathetic. Oh yeah, and then she went and anon commented on [livejournal.com profile] sapphire_isle's mom's LJ, suggesting that her cancer was just made up so people would give them money.

That's so not comprehensive, but it sort of explains.

([livejournal.com profile] slumber, you could probably do a better explainy job than me, but I figured I'd be okay since I already explained once today. :p)

And even though I was in fandom when this was happening, it completely went over my head. Mostly. This made me WTF.

Date: 2006-06-20 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklychibi.livejournal.com
Limeywank - you mean limeybean? 'Cause, yeah, that was pretty explosive.

But I have another reason for commenting. See, Minty and I started this community called [livejournal.com profile] youddoitbetter, born out of our complete mutual insecurity, where you post ideas that you think other people would write better. And other people, er, write them. If they want. The point is the writers have to actually be good, because otherwise it's useless, so we decided we'd start off by inviting people we KNEW were good. And you might not believe this, but we both thought of you before anyone else. So, er, you don't have to join the community, but we'd love to have you and we're inviting you to skip the application process completely so you don't have to deal with that. Just let us know.

Date: 2006-06-21 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gifted-dream.livejournal.com
Regarding which wank beats which: I think it depends on who you ask. GT people will say one thing, limeybean's close friends will say another.

As for me, I'm going with sockpuppetgate. XD

Date: 2006-06-21 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gifted-dream.livejournal.com
Hi Taira. *smish*

Date: 2006-06-21 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ensemble.livejournal.com
I voted for Limeywank, as it was my favourite. It was the funniest, most bizzare, whereas scribe was just pathetic, whereas all that shit with CC just makes me angry and pity her fangirls.

Date: 2006-06-21 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklychibi.livejournal.com
asdfkjhad Erika!! *jumps*

Date: 2006-06-21 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
LOL, I didn't want to risk an army of fangirls demanding me to--are there still rabid fangirls? Hmm.

Stepping back from the whole brouhaha, I realised the same thing. I tried to explain to Line why everyone's up in arms about this and I just went all "What?" on my own explanation. It isn't quite as interesting as the way Charlotte Lennox put it, and damn now I really want to know who she is.

Date: 2006-06-21 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
What [livejournal.com profile] descants said. :P It's just that [livejournal.com profile] delawarean used sockpuppets to antagonise her so she'd come out looking good, and she also used them to sort of point fingers at groups of people that fandom already didn't really like. Then, as herself, she attacked a cancer patient and accused her of lying, and let her minions harrass her too, around the time that those same minions contributed around $2000 for CC's stolen laptop. :|

Really, the best thing to do is read all ten chapters of the account. It's the most fascinating way I've ever seen wank exposed.

Date: 2006-06-21 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
I think I'd come into fandom a few months before the Aja/Ivy wank exploded, and I remember being swayed towards the Ivyblossom side (because I loved her writing, hahaha I am so objective) and now I've seen Aja's side of it too, since this has all been dragged back up, and you know, history belongs to the victors. Always been in the periphery of things, though, which is where I like it best.

Date: 2006-06-21 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
For the WTF factor, I'd definitely choose Limeywank. There's obviously something very ironic about dying for the emo kids (when hell, I'm sure they can do it for themselves) and she made ljsecrets. Man. I love the way msscribe's was exposed though, I have to say, whether Charlotte Lennox admits to having a life or not. :P

Date: 2006-06-21 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
That's true, but hopefully, respondents to the above poll are people who aren't as closely associated with the wankery to give an emotional damn. :P

Date: 2006-06-21 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
Oh, wow, seriously? Hee, to be honest my first thought, which was "They're kidding. Eeee.", was followed quickly by "OH NOES NOW PEOPLE WILL THINK I HAVE SOCKPUPPETS!"

Haha, irrelevant. :| But yay, I would be honoured! :*

Date: 2006-06-21 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklychibi.livejournal.com
Man, thinking of yourself as s sockpuppet is like one of those terrible "What if someone is just dreaming my life?" questions.

Eee, I'm glaaaaaad!

Date: 2006-06-21 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
Eeeeeeeee Cillian! Mmmm. Sorry. :|

Ahahaha, existentialism. Gotta love it. :P

Me too! :D

Date: 2006-06-21 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklychibi.livejournal.com
Cillian is hot smex.

So if you could just give us a list of your fandoms, that would be awesome.

Date: 2006-06-21 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com
Mmmmyes. :D

Ooh, um. Harry Potter's the only one I've really written for. There were a few attempts at Queer as Folk but mostly it's HP, I've not branched out significantly although I suspect I'd do Good Omens and House, given proper motivation.

Date: 2006-06-21 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklychibi.livejournal.com
Great, thanks! ♥

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