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Jul. 14th, 2007 12:31 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
slumberI'm reserving final judgment for OotP after I've read each book, seen their adaptations (except for the Philosopher's Stone, which I'd done reading by the time I got the idea), and then read HBP as well, in time for Deathly Hallows, to get a gist of what was alright in OotP and what bothered me about it, because initial feelings are basically, I can't wrap my head around the logic behind turning the longest book of them all into the shortest film.
But enough of that. I've been reading flist reviews, plenty of which have squeed and woed over certain scenes and stuff, but.
how powerful they're making Ginny? She got an exceptionally bright Patronus, for some reason. It was her spell in the Room of Requirement, during that scene when they were all taking turns casting spells, that made the mirror shatter, or something, and she was the one who cast that Protego (Was it the Protego?) that essentially turned the Department of Mysteries upside down.
Back in the FAP boards--ooh, who here remembers them? :P--I think I remember someone mentioning something about how Ginny, being the seventh daughter (of the seventh daughter, supposedly, but Molly seems to have only two older brothers whom we know) in seven (which is a guess--JKR said in several, which is clearly a few letters off) generations is Important and signifies Great Powers and perhaps An Important Role. :| Well, JKR says something about it too, over here, about more than halfway down, but here's the bit:
That was, of course, before the fourth movie came out, and a little after the sixth book was released, but still. They were actually making note of it in OotP, perhaps as some form of foreshadowing?
Oh, and while we're at it. If there's any more doubt that Harry's the last Horcrux, let me point you to Chamber of Secrets (bold mine):
You really can't get any more blunt than that, can you?
But enough of that. I've been reading flist reviews, plenty of which have squeed and woed over certain scenes and stuff, but.
how powerful they're making Ginny? She got an exceptionally bright Patronus, for some reason. It was her spell in the Room of Requirement, during that scene when they were all taking turns casting spells, that made the mirror shatter, or something, and she was the one who cast that Protego (Was it the Protego?) that essentially turned the Department of Mysteries upside down.
Back in the FAP boards--ooh, who here remembers them? :P--I think I remember someone mentioning something about how Ginny, being the seventh daughter (of the seventh daughter, supposedly, but Molly seems to have only two older brothers whom we know) in seven (which is a guess--JKR said in several, which is clearly a few letters off) generations is Important and signifies Great Powers and perhaps An Important Role. :| Well, JKR says something about it too, over here, about more than halfway down, but here's the bit:
Does she have a larger importance; the Tom Riddle stufff, being the seventh girl —
The backstory with Ginny was, she was the first girl to arrive in the Weasley family in generations, but there's that old tradition of the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter and a seventh son of a seventh son, so that's why she's the seventh, because she is a gifted witch. I think you get hints of that, because she does some pretty impressive stuff here and there, and you'll see that again.
That was, of course, before the fourth movie came out, and a little after the sixth book was released, but still. They were actually making note of it in OotP, perhaps as some form of foreshadowing?
Oh, and while we're at it. If there's any more doubt that Harry's the last Horcrux, let me point you to Chamber of Secrets (bold mine):
"[sic] Unless I'm much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I'm sure..."
"Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?" Harry said, thunderstruck.
"It certainly seems so."
From Chamber of Secrets, chapter 18, page 333 in the Scholastic paperback edition
You really can't get any more blunt than that, can you?
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Date: 2007-07-14 06:02 am (UTC)I remember that! I was at FAP! For liek, 3 threads, I think. :| Anyway. YEH! The mighty number 7. XD
Um. Ginny. When I saw those scenes, I was mostly 0_o because I fail at recalling important details from the book, clearly.
If there's any more doubt that Harry's the last Horcrux
I've never doubted, come to think of it. I haven't read a lot of meta, but yes, that's one very huge point.
7 DAYS. T_T
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Date: 2007-07-14 06:17 am (UTC)Hahaha, yeah, it's one of the things I was so SURE of after I put down the sixth book. "Harry's a Horcrux, oh my god."
js;kfajd;sfkjagj;aj; I AM NOT GOING TO BE HERE ON THAT DAY. Grandfather's birthday, wah, we'll be in the province. I had the book delivered to the house na lang so it's here when we return. hf;sjg;slgfj;ljgf;asf;ajfalkj; DDDDDDD:
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Date: 2007-07-14 06:24 am (UTC)OMG YOU ARE THE WORST FANGIRL EVER. SERIOUSLY. I THINK I SHOULD BE THE ONE DISOWNING YOU.
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Date: 2007-07-14 06:46 am (UTC)you? fail.
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Date: 2007-07-14 06:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-14 07:14 am (UTC)DED. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. NOT ONLY YOU FAIL AS A FAN, YOU FAIL AS A GRANDDAUGHTER AS WELL.
Smileys must rule this world. i hope you're using firefox
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Date: 2007-07-14 07:27 am (UTC)Andihavetogo.
LET'S VIDEOKE YES HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BUT NO FERGIE!!!!!
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Date: 2007-07-14 08:21 am (UTC)And Ginny used "Reducto". Very well, might I add. Dunno if I like her as powerful as all that, but meh... it's their film. And yes, they should have made it longer.
And Horcrux!Harry... I don't want to believe anything until I've read the book. Too many possibilities. But that would seem both plausible and probable.
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Date: 2007-07-14 08:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-14 07:08 pm (UTC)*huggles*
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Date: 2007-07-14 12:13 pm (UTC)I've always been so-so about Ginny, tbh, although I seem to appreciate her more in the films. Well, I lie. She can barely act in Chamber of Secrets, but in OotP her Meaningful Looks were pretty good--subtle, but unmistakably there.
I'm interested to see JKR get out of this one, considering she IS known for her red herrings.
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Date: 2007-07-14 07:16 pm (UTC)http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3652613/1/Shades_of_Grey
It's short, it's mine. Just an idea, mind you, but I liked it. :D
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Date: 2007-07-15 03:38 am (UTC)And ooh, I like that idea. While it may not happen exactly as it did there, you've still brought up a lot of nuances in the phrasing of the prophecy that are Very Interesting, and it actually ties in well with Lily's protection over Harry. The whole "saved by the power of love" thing sounds too fluffy for me, but if she actually did something, well, yeah.
I really can't wait for DH much longer now. :P
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Date: 2007-07-15 05:00 am (UTC)Basically, this had BETTER be good. :D
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Date: 2007-07-15 05:05 am (UTC)Oh, yes. I stumbled across what could be the final chapter of the book, the epilogue-type thing, and while I am exercising utmost self-control not to read it all, I did get a look at what's replaced scar for the final word in the book. I'm choosing to remain optimistic for the rest of the novel, and it reminds me, I SHOULD get back to my PoA reread now. :P
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Date: 2007-07-15 07:39 am (UTC)And as for the meaning of the prophecy... Fiona had an interesting idea: the "other" in the phrase, "neither can live while the other survives" doesn't refer to Harry OR Voldemort, but to Neville. It might not be probable, but it's DAMNED interesting. I wonder, in the very lease, if "other" refers to someone aside from Harry or Voldemort. It would change the meaning of the whole damn thing.
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Date: 2007-07-14 08:43 am (UTC)Am I the only one who burst out laughing at the inappropriate nature of that? lolololololool.
Alsoooo... oh yeah, I went on FAP YESTERDAY. Pumpkin Pie was on the second page, wahahaha.
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Date: 2007-07-14 09:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-14 07:17 pm (UTC)*giggles*
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Date: 2007-07-14 12:14 pm (UTC)Dorkoid. Psst, who's got the most number of threads now?
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Date: 2007-07-14 12:15 pm (UTC)And anyway, I can't help it if I had to disappear for four hours. :|
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Date: 2007-07-14 11:32 am (UTC)Nooooooo! DENIAL: Not just a river in Egypt, etc etc.
Tbh, despite evidence to the contrary, I can't get past the fact that if Harry = Horcrux, Dumbledore would've at least suspected and hinted at it during the pensieve scenes. Then again, this could well be wishful thinking :\ Nooooetc.
It's weird that I hate super-powerful Ginny in canon, but quite like her in the movieverse.
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Date: 2007-07-14 12:18 pm (UTC)It could be something that Dumbledore knew but kept from Harry, I have no idea, but to be fair, JKR is known for putting red herrings alongside her plot, and this could be something she planted to mislead us from how it really all ends. Of course, like I told
She's rather spunky in a not-too-obnoxious way, which is what I got off her from OotP and HBP, I think. Bonnie Wright's coming into her own, I'd say.
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Date: 2007-07-14 12:50 pm (UTC)Anyhoo, yeah, Dumbledore did say that Nagini may be a horcrux, which could've been his hint to Harry that horcruxes are not confined to inanimate objects nudgenudgecouldbeyou. But this is something else I'm trying to ignore >_>
I'm not overally fond of canon Ginny, but it's partially the fault of fandom. I didn't mind her too much whilst reading, but other people's opinions of her rudeness corrupted me rapidly. I do very much love Bonnie's Ginny though, and I think she'll be great in six and seven.
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Date: 2007-07-14 01:06 pm (UTC)And there's also that part where trying to AK Harry ended up in Voldemort losing much of what made him a person--probably, that was his soul finally being split into seven parts. And, on slightly stretched speculation, it could help explain the prophecy, about one being unable to live while the other survives, and if Harry were a descendant of Gryffindor (which is another rumour that's not quite died either) then this is possibly how Voldemort could not have realised that killing him would actually suck his soul in (as he needed something of Godric's or Rowena's, I think).
But again, that's wandering into even more speculation and I'm not too confident about those things anymore. It's just the whole bit concerning Harry that I'm going to look out for, really. :| Doesn't have to mean he'll DIE, though. :|
Oh, fandom. :P She's really--she's really neutral, for me, honest-to-goodness I could never really muster up either fondness or dislike for her. In the OotP film, though, yeah. I hope Bonnie does something fantastic with Ginny, in the same way Evanna nailed Luna. :P
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Date: 2007-07-14 08:43 pm (UTC)if Harry were a descendant of Gryffindor
I think Jo pretty much shot that down somewhere in here. Which is a pity, I quite like where you were going with it :\ And yeah, Harry death? SO Do Not Want, which is why I don't go for the whole horcrux thing in the first place - it's nearly always accompanied by Harry Will DIE which = Noooo!
Evanna rocks beyond granite. Have you seen
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Date: 2007-07-15 03:46 am (UTC)Haha, I remember that too, so I'm not hanging on to that notion either. I'm sitting on the fence regarding Harry's death, to be honest--I'd not mind it, and I'd not mind if it never happened either, but I totally understand what you mean with his Horcrux-ness leading to death. (I'm sure JKR will find a way, though. I'm not SURE she's going to kill Harry--I'm scared Ron'll get axed instead. :|)
I think all of fandom probably loves her by now, and I went to read it, yes, that was positively awesome. :P Evanna's not on LJ, is she? :)) Probably wouldn't want to say.
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Date: 2007-07-15 12:43 pm (UTC)Ron, oh noes! If Ron, Neville or Luna died, I honestly believe I'll be drawing my pension with tears still running down my face :( Or McGonagall, for that matter, she has the win too. OR REMUS. But anyway, I could probably go looking for the spoilers on the internets now, but WON'T.
Evanna's not on LJ, is she?
Current evidence would indicate that she is omg. Non-LJers do not specifically mention LJ in passing with other fans. Thus, I am eyeing everyone with suspicion *eyes*
I shall cease spamming your entry now :P
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Date: 2007-07-16 02:03 am (UTC)I really really REALLY want Ron to grow up, marry Hermione, and have many babies. :| And I have the last pages of DH and I don't want to read them at all, so.
Hahaha, it's interesting imagining how she would have been like with her LJ and stuff. :P And eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep, DH soon! :D
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Date: 2007-07-15 04:51 am (UTC)The thing is, I kept TRYING to say it out loud, as soon as I heard the "What if I live a million years?" line, but my girlfriend kept saying, "NO! Be quiet! You HAVE to hear this part!" And I kept trying to say, "NO! Listen, I know who that is! It's the Face of Boe!" And she kept shushing me... until I said, after the fact, "You know, I was TRYING to say that." That's when she looked at me, dumbfounded, because she hadn't figured it out until the actual statement floored her. (She saw the episode before me.) Either way, very funny, best plot twist EVER.
I'm looking at your icons now... I need some Doctor Who icons. *envies*
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Date: 2007-07-15 12:42 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2007-07-15 05:03 am (UTC)And yeah, I just got into Doctor Who recently. My fiancee,
(And I really need some Who icons.)
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Date: 2007-07-15 05:10 am (UTC)Hahaha, good for her. :P Torchwood is mad. Well. It's a different Jack, tbh, from the one we see in Who, but second season's supposed to bring the old Jack back, since he DID end up wanting to be in Torchwood at the end of Who. *squishes him*
(Don't we all, haha. I would have gladly ganked the prettiest Ten icons if doing so didn't mean I had to remove ALL my icons from my paid account days. Hmm, I'm sure there's a mood theme somewhere, though. There has to be one. :P)
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